https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/03/several-statements-ray-epps-first-person-fbi-recording/
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Epps, during his interview with the FBI, said that he told Samsel, "That's not why we're here…don't be doing that." Grant, and Samsel (following the J6 pardons), confirmed that Epps said "We need more people." In fact, it is evident on the YouTube video from that day...."